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sbchan
01-08-2006, 01:43 PM
或許大家都不想把教會裡的東西帶過來吧,很少看見這裡的人談讀聖經的。

我自已在教會參加了一個半年的讀經「計劃」。說是計劃,其實也不算是有甚麼設計,總之半年內看完指定的書卷就是了。仔細一點是,大約是每個月讀廿五天,每天一章左右(不過我自己都未必跟足 )。我參加的是NT1, 看四福音、使徒行傳加啟示綠(哈,返璞歸真 )。

當然,自己讀可能沒甚麼勁,所以我們在教會裡有找partner,互相督促一下(但當然不用一起坐著讀)。

大家如果有興趣的話,我們也可以在這裡做網上partner的。我會「得閒」就來問問你讀成點,反之亦然。 :D

Garlic
01-08-2006, 02:06 PM
現在,讀經要即時解經才有味,不求深入的略讀有點莫名的感覺,還怕人讀完行錯了道添。

不過,謝謝提醒。

sbchan
01-08-2006, 03:18 PM
其實我自己都怕亂讀一通。我說我沒有跟足教會的計劃,就是指我自己會找多一點背景資料等等來看。昨天我便在開始馬太福音之前讀了啟導本裡面談及的兩約間的歷史,還有耶穌時代的各派系,等等。

我選理論上是最基本的四福音來讀,也就是怕其他太深入的話會完成不了。讀經是可快可慢的事。或許我是在用中速來讀吧.....

這裡好像少了點研經的討論。我們不妨這樣開始.
:)

tkhwong2005
01-08-2006, 08:48 PM
I am preaching on Ephesians at my church prayer meeting for last three weeks. I will continue to preach on Ephesians for coming 60 plus weeks in the prayer meeting. I am trying to not just preaching on the passage, but also transfer them to be a cell group materials that can be used by my church member. I try to put some background of this passage in the cell materials. I am still working on it. I wish I can get more improvement. If you are interested, you can take a look in this site:

http://www.ecbchurch.org/chinese/index.htm

Tony

Garlic
01-08-2006, 09:43 PM
話時話,速讀或中速地讀,但一口氣看完全卷書,這可有特效。

記得我一口氣看完朋腓立比書,就看到保羅叫人喜樂?教訓信徒應該喜樂?不是如此,是他因主耶穌和福音大大喜樂,我看完人熱極了,不斷室內踱步,坐不下,當然借助了釋經書,跟著帶著衝動說了這卷書的道。

曾禮拜天下午一口起看完傳道書,很爽。

每天一章?見仁見智吧。

補充:一口氣看完一卷,會更能明白作者原意,尤其是書信體,這是徒手釋經第一式。

sbchan
01-09-2006, 12:36 AM
其實我們可以不妨多多把平時的讀經心得/講義等等post在這裡。^_^

wilson
01-09-2006, 07:40 AM
I am preaching on Ephesians at my church prayer meeting for last three weeks. I will continue to preach on Ephesians for coming 60 plus weeks in the prayer meeting. I am trying to not just preaching on the passage, but also transfer them to be a cell group materials that can be used by my church member. I try to put some background of this passage in the cell materials. I am still working on it. I wish I can get more improvement. If you are interested, you can take a look in this site:

http://www.ecbchurch.org/chinese/index.htm

Tony

I've read a few pages of Harold W. Hoehner's Ephesians: An Exegetical Commentary, BECNT (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2003). It's thoroughly exegetical and updated detailed info. Maybe better than O'Brien and Best. If you continue to preach on Ephesian, this book may be useful to you.

By the way, I've visited your church website, and have seen your wife and you in the Nov 05 bulletin. Happy New Year!!

張國棟
01-09-2006, 09:20 AM
I've read a few pages of Harold W. Hoehner's Ephesians: An Exegetical Commentary, BECNT (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2003). It's thoroughly exegetical and updated detailed info. Maybe better than O'Brien and Best. If you continue to preach on Ephesian, this book may be useful to you.

By the way, I've visited your church website, and have seen your wife and you in the Nov 05 bulletin. Happy New Year!!

那三本書我也看過少許,Hoehner無疑是最厚的,最詳盡的。

我明白越詳盡通常是越好,但是若作者未能把資料善用和消化,資料多就未必一定是好事。例如我仍然看不出為何第一章首幾節可以用來支持加爾文主義,若無記錯,Hoehner卻是這樣解的。

tkhwong2005
01-09-2006, 12:03 PM
I've read a few pages of Harold W. Hoehner's Ephesians: An Exegetical Commentary, BECNT (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2003). It's thoroughly exegetical and updated detailed info. Maybe better than O'Brien and Best. If you continue to preach on Ephesian, this book may be useful to you.

By the way, I've visited your church website, and have seen your wife and you in the Nov 05 bulletin. Happy New Year!!

Thank you very much of your recommandation. I will try to take a look of this book. As far as I know, this is one of the newest commentary of this field. At the same time, I wish I can read M. Barth's commentary of Ephensians (The Anchor Bible Series). I had read Barth's expository book on Ephensians (The Broken Wall). It is a very good book to read. :D

tkhwong2005
01-09-2006, 12:06 PM
那三本書我也看過少許,Hoehner無疑是最厚的,最詳盡的。

我明白越詳盡通常是越好,但是若作者未能把資料善用和消化,資料多就未必一定是好事。例如我仍然看不出為何第一章首幾節可以用來支持加爾文主義,若無記錯,Hoehner卻是這樣解的。

I agree with you. Right now, I am using F.F. Bruce's commentary very much (NICNT). It is good commentary but it was written in 1984. I am guesting many scholarly work has been done within this 22 years.

:)

tkhwong2005
01-09-2006, 12:13 PM
這裡好像少了點研經的討論。我們不妨這樣開始.
:)


I agree with you. Maybe we can keep track on one another's progress :) As for myself, I am currently focusing on Ephesians. Hopefully I can share some of my thoughts later on. :)